Both have ambidextrous safeties. Optional AR-15 buffer tube adapter allows for mounting of a pistol arm brace or, with SBR registration, any AR-15 stock. There is a hefty bolt on the CZ Scorpion, which means there is a lot of felt recoil. Maybe even a PS90 to be the odd man out. If you don’t own something else that the stock can legally attach to then, yeah, possession of a stock for a pistol would be considered “constructive possession.”. SB makes two different brace for the Scorpion as well at braces that’ll work with adaptors. It’s easy to mount a light to the sides, and you could run a pressure switch on the top rail. They mount on a standard picatinny rail. It’s my first CZ and as a die hard Sigaholic, I was actually surprised in my initial decision. That is a lot of money, but if you’re looking for the smallest gun possible to carry in a bag, it’s worth it. MPX (Nick): Ugh. Practical accuracy is the accuracy the shooter can achieve with the gun. If I wanted reliable and wasn't shooting competition I'd buy a Scorpion, it has a harder recoil impulse, but it flat out works, and you can add every toy you'd want to it, and still spend less than what a base MPX would be. We go over the benefits/features of each and help you decided which one to choose if you’re on the fence. In theory, the Micro is supposed to be a small concealable PDW that’ll fit in a backpack or sling bag. I’ve found this works the best. You can mount it to the top rail with an offset mount like the moonlight mod button. Sig did a fantastic job with product placement in Equalizer 2 and left me wanting an MXC really bad! I want you to walk away knowing you have the information you need to make a sound purchasing decision. The Sig MPX vs. CZ Scorpion! There are aftermarket kits to improve the trigger, but even those, the trigger isn’t as good on the CZ Scorpion vs. MPX. Don’t forget the Mechtech stainless steel uppers. The Sig just feels so nice and solid in your hands. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. The safety of the scorpion is something I personally don’t care for. Nick should have mentioned this in his trigger section. The AR 9 allows for more customization IMO but can vary in price and reliability. The handguard is so short there isn’t a lot of room to place your hand. It runs like a top and is super accurate but i personally wouldnt buy one of those hideous guns either…. Scorpion (Jeremy S.): Lock bolt back. Scorpion (Jeremy S.): 10-, 20-, and 30-round magazines are available. If you’re looking for a more traditional looking gun, go with the Sig MPX vs CZ Scorpion, which looks more futuristic. We’ll cover every pro and con in the MPX vs. Scorpion debate. It’s less bulky and more streamlined in design. The CZ Scorpion is a mostly polymer 9mm pistol version of a Czech made SMG and the Sig MPX is a new US made pistol version of their new SMG. The MPX is just like the Scorpion ‘cept gay – D Ali G. Reply. Also the mp5 clone triggers will never be as good as an ar15 trigger. It takes me about 2 minutes to remove the FCG from the gun. Those seem pretty cool as well. If you’re buying this gun for the range only then, I can’t see which will be the most fun. MPX (Nick): The controls are identical to an AR-15, with some exceptions. I'd like to get a SIG MPX because it looks cool, but the price + magazine price is a tough sell over a Glock mag AR. 67 Posts #21 • Oct 29, 2016. It’s ambidextrous but isn’t as ergonomic as an AR15 style safety. Ergonomics I have one of the 10-round mags for the Scorp and while I don’t see any reason why I’ll ever actually use it, it does look cute and stubby in the magwell hahaha …and makes things easier for residents of a handful of states…. . Hoping to SBR it soon. So mounting a light off the top rail isn’t ideal. I personally think this gun shines, setting it up for home defense. MPX (Nick): Sleek and familiar. These are both really neat 9mm guns that are super fun to shoot and have a lot of advantages from a tactical shooter perspective. Not exactly black, and white, there is a shade of grey. These guns have two very different looks. This is a full-size submachine clone. So if you have the budget and that’s your purpose, I’d suggest going with that. With current use in movies, both the Sig MPX and the CZ Scorpion are bound to invoke some of those feelings. Not so … I’ve been having a blast reviewing a Scorpion myself, and have already detail stripped it and documented the process of overhauling the trigger. Really too many to mention here, so we’ll cover most of them in accessories. I remember watching a video on Youtube of someone running an MPX with a Tac-Con “assisted reset” trigger. Scorpion (Jeremy S.): 10-ish lbs of battle trigger. On the MPX, you’ll find a well-designed ambidextrous AR15 style safety. Push out one captive pin by hand. I just got a MPX so I thought I do one. (All CZ-USA firearms are warranted to be free from defects in material and workmanship for one (1) year on wooden parts and surface treatment and five (5) years on other parts to the original purchaser.). Hey, I’m in town, let’s do some other write-ups. On the other hand, you have the scorpion that does everything the Sig does but not quite as well. With its piston system and rotating bolt, this is by far the quietest gun to suppress. If you plan to run the gun suppressed, there is no reason not to get a longer handguard. MPX (Nick): 8 inches on the dot. I’ve purchased guns of all price points, calibers, and action types to build the best products for the market. Customize This: emfourty gasmask says: June 10, 2015 at 23:03 . Now, if you’re comparing the Sig MPX Copperhead vs CZ Scorpion Micro, the cost is only $430 apart. Mass confusion and nervousness. .32acp scorpion] weren’t accurate, they sure as heck would survive better in a mishap, conflict or war…when I saw article of course I said Sig, but read the prices and it’s ‘maybe the CZ’…you’d do better sticking a glock with extended barrel in one of those $300 plastic-&-rails RONI or FAB defense subgun pdw kit shells. And yet you say the accuracy is a wash between the two? It would be slicker, and look more “futurey” in my opinion. There are aftermarket options but not that many. Mags are made by Lancer, a company who makes the only mags I trust for hunting. The CZ Scorpion is a simple blowback design that’ll work with little to no maintenance. Hands down, the Sig MPX is a smoother shooting gun. Hmmm, makes me wonder why I’m waiting on a KRISS Vector 9mm…. SIG still hasn’t shipped any replacement parts. Do you have a buffer tube, or whatever piece is required to attach said stock? Cool idea that I haven’t seen before. People buy guns for many different reasons. And, I just so happen to have both. The scorpion had zero tune ability of its operating system and no slim fore end so it needed to be gone as a game gun for me. Some people might have long enough fingers to hit the paddle with their trigger finger, but most won’t. It’s really 850 vs 1350. It's biggest shortcoming is the stupid AR-15 style charging handle. The easily swappable handguards and barrel make the gun very appealing for tinkerers as well, allowing end users to do cool things like extend the handguards over a silencer to increase rail space while keeping the gun as compact as possible. No aftermarket options for pistol grips yet, but it’s a simple polymer affair so I’m sure that will come. According to the previous MPX review, yes. Operating System: Hard to beat that. The right arm is shorter, so it doesn’t bother your grip when shooting the gun. Sig has stock versions of the brace options if you decide to SBR the gun. And a RONI and FAB too. At least you’ll be able to get the carbine version of either of these with the help of a mag lock. The CZ is mostly polymer, while the Sig MPX is all metal minus the pistol grip. Perhaps if Sig released the MPX in the era of jenky AR-15 9mm conversions, it would have been a hit. Seen plenty of Scorpion vs MPX or Scorpion vs MP5 but haven't seen any direct comparison for all three. Can't speak for the MPX (I gave up on waiting a while ago), but I just put my new Scorpion up against my SBR MP5 today. Absolutely. There are a ton of brace option for the Scorpion. MPX (Nick): LIFETIME limited warranty from SIG SAUER. Ambidextrous magazine release is a paddle on each side of the front of the trigger guard. Does it have a lifetime warranty? It isn’t constructive possession, just because I have a MOE, or UBR in my house, and a pistol. These are. He also reviews whiskey and talks about woodworking at. As long as you keep it wet, you should be good. It has proved its self. Like the Scorpion they are proprietary, but Lancer has a great track record for mag manufacturing. I have always wanted to try my hand at assembling a pistol caliber carbine. But that size comes at a major cost that’ll we’ll cover later in this article. The Sig MPX doesn’t like to be run even slightly dry. Other than the Ruger 10/22 Takedown. The ability to slide the grip forwards and back to adjust for trigger reach distance is great. So the current grip angle makes no sense. If your gun has any manufacturing defects they will happily fix it for you. Does it come out of the box, no assembly required? None of these are going to be great options. Since thing Sig Sauer has made some changes to the MPX and I've done some testing I hadn't done back in 2015. The mpx takes ar tigger groups. There are major differences in the safety of the CZ Scorpion vs MPX. Just my opinion, if you don’t agree keep it to yourself please. No. After shooting my own CZ scoprion, it just reaffirmed my choice. $850 vs $1650 You can shoot a Sig MPX much better and easier than the Scorpion due to the recoil impulse and the trigger. MPX (Nick): A set of flip-up iron sights comes on the gun from the factory along that top Picatinny rail. The magazine… The gun grip has an extreme angle and is similar to the old A2 style AR15 Grip. Question of the Day: Should the ATF Merge with the FBI? Mounting accessories to the Sig MPX and the CZ Scorpion Evo will depend on the variant you have. Sig did an excellent job, but you could always switch it out for a AR 15 safety. No. I also love the fact that the MPX is available in .357 SIG, which I think would be excellent ballistically. MPX (Nick): If you’ve cleaned an AR-15, you can clean the MPX. Report Save. The only thing I was not able to find was a better trigger. Pull the forward takedown pin and the handguards slide right off, revealing the barrel and gas system for an easy wipedown. Oh, and “the box” in this case is a proper polymer gun case with a foam insert precision cut to keep the MPX securely in place. Or 4.5 if you wait. In short, not only is the MPX going to have tons of options from the factory, but the end user can change damn near everything on their existing gun and aftermarket parts are already widely available. This section is going to be short. This means you want to be able to mount a suppressor on the Sig MPX Copperhead. SIG Sauer MCX Rattler. It’s a fun gun to shoot that you can also use as a vehicle gun. They do co-witness with a small red dot sans riser, though, which happens to be the ideal height for optics with an SBR’d Scorp. 2. share. The Scorpion in pistol form also has 4 sling attachment rings on the receiver and ships with a receiver end plate that’s slotted in various ways for a strap sling. The best option is an offset QD mount mounted on the top rail. I don’t use that because I’m so used to a standard AR15, but it’s nice to have the option. For those who want to mount an IR laser, all of these guns will be a little bit short, but it is doable on the larger variants. Barrel Length: This makes the use of a weapon light much more ergonomic. As Manticore Arms has already taken an interest w/ the Scorp and one of the first things they did for the Tavor was handguard replacements, I wouldn’t be surprised if this is on their list. The Copperhead is the MPX’s design taken to … The heavy bolt provides a nice delay to the action and definitely reduces gas and debris blockback through the breech. The other three sides of the handguard are railed as well. All polymer except for the spring. Once 30-round magazine. MPX (Nick): Right now, the gun is only available in the 8″ barrel variety. Since I “can’t” have an SBR, my “pistol caliber carbine” will consist of 20rd Sig 226 TacOps, 34 round 9mm Glock mags, and maybe a MechTech upper. This gun will be best suited for a vehicle, home defense, or just a fun range gun. Going price for the mags today is around $60, not cheap at all, but regardless, Sig will ALWAYS charge more on their site than anyone else does for the exact same OEM parts. Now comes the part where the MPX earns the extra $500 on the price tag. The RDB really does work and it is smoother and shofter shooting than my CZ Scorpion. I felt it shot kinda rough (uncomfortable) as compared to my MP5. It might complicate the operating bits somewhat, but it means a lighter spring in the gun and a lighter recoiling firearm in my opinion. With the 8 inch handguard, this is by far the most ergonomic gun. You no longer have to have massive quantities to justify production for the parts. It’s even small enough to conceal it under a large coat if you wanted to go full 80s action movie. Does anyone know if you can switch out the barrels in the MPX? © COPYRIGHT 2020, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Thanks, MPX all the way. If the gas bleed thing is what I think it is and I can run cheap 115 grain ammo while keeping it subsonic, I’m going to be a big fan of the POF piece. They have a stock adapter for the Scorpion. Sig MPX vs CZ Scorpion Quality. As far as reliability issues, mine has never had any failures. It’s heavy and creepy and just not fun to shoot. They are Sig’s OEM for their MPX magazines, and they also offer Cabon Fiber handguards. So the question becomes: In my opinion, both of these guns have a similar value for the cost. Which will prevail? Why Do Silencers In Video Games Make Guns Worse? They make handguards, safeties, brace/stock adapters, muzzle devices, charging handles, trigger shoes, grips, magazine releases, and barrels. On the downside, they’re low and somewhat sleek, meaning they won’t co-witness at a normal AR height. The CZ EVO has been being used in modern times by active military forces, and S.W.A.T. It’s easy to reach with your thumb after inserting a fresh magazine. Currently outfitted with a trs25 and shockwave blade all for under $900. I live half an hour outside of town on my modest rural farm. You could even mount an IR Laser if you wanted to. If you’re looking for a PDW that is easy to carry in a pack, then this is the best option on the market. For some people, a gun is a tool that carries no emotional attachment. Due to the difference in their operating systems, these guns have completely different recoil impulses. Both of these guns have a pretty well-beveled magazine well. At current, the choices are the slotted sling plate that ships with it and the AR-15 buffer tube adapter plate, but this same mounting system is how the factory folding stock attaches and, as mentioned, I’m sure the aftermarket is going to have fun with the possibilities (edit: Manticore Arms already has a prototype telescoping stock). Their owner claims that every sale of their stock MUST be accompanied by an ATF Form 1, which is a requirement that I have never seen before from a manufacturer. You can access the right side release using your trigger finger, making it a slightly faster reload. Required fields are marked *. For home defense or a truck gun, I’d choose MPX all day as it’s just more effective. John Wick used the Taran Tactical MPX in the third John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum, and it’s also been featured in Bad Boys for Life and Equalizer 2. The Scorpion is so wide it doesn’t leave room for those items. This is likely the most versatile gun of them all. The Micro Scorpion is smaller than the original but is still a larger and heavier weapon overall. Price really will define this battle at the end if the day, really, considering one can almost buy two Evo’s for the price of one MPX. General Appearance: That’s my only gripe with it. Sig MPX still has to go through Sig’s end user beta test. Scorpion EVO vs Sig MPX – Which Would I Choose? If you’re shooting the copperhead, there is much recoil, but there is a ton of concussion. I haven’t had any reliability issues with my MPX except when it’s run dry. The higher quality firearm is the Sig MPX vs CZ Scorpion. And why would you buy ANYTHING straight from the Sig Store??? At the end of the day, I couldn’t justify the near double price of the MPX, and ended up buying a CZ scorpion. The top rail on this gun is cut somewhat short. We compared the Sig Sauer MPK Gen 1 to the Scorpion EVO back in 2015. In 6 Underground, Ryan Reynolds’ character used a CZ Scorpion that was all-ceramic, so it didn’t stick to the yacht when they turned it into a magnet. It will be hard to argue against the paddle release on CZ Scorpion vs MPX that uses a button style release from a reliability standpoint. The MPX has the advantage of also primarily made of aluminum, while the Scorpion is polymer, in addition to having a more advanced operating system. MPX (Nick): Three rail sections. I like the MPX a lot, but at that price I don’t see the value when I could have a very nice rifle caliber carbine or a pile of leftover cash and a pistol caliber carbine that shares magazines with something I own (e.g., CX4, Sub-2000). The MPX utilizes a closed, fully locked short stroke pushrod gas system. If the trigger fits a regular AR, it will fit an MPX. Video. With the APC9 you have replacement stocks available from day one and there’s an attachment for a pistol buffer tube built into the gun. You get what you pay for. Or, I don’t know, actually shoot them at the SAME distance to make it a legitimate comparison.

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